[新闻汇集]阳光灿烂的日子

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Post by 豪情 » 2021-01-10 23:00

最后是pence和技术官僚参谋长拍板发兵的。严格说不合规定。

国防部写了个自辨状在官网上
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Post by tiffany » 2021-01-10 23:14

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Post by Jun » 2021-01-10 23:15

推荐这个人的一手报道:

https://mobile.twitter.com/TerryBoutonH ... 5449268226

要说川普没有料到这样的形势发展,我是不信的。

Michael Beschloss 在推上提醒大家国防部的领导层刚刚被换成全忠心的班子。Beschloss 可不是信口开河的无名氏,他是颇有名气的主流作家,写过好几本美国总统传记,我看过他在读书节的访谈,还嫌他太正统呢。
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2021-01-11 0:30

跟阿诺的都是共和党吗?下面的reply都很不友善哪。
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Post by 豪情 » 2021-01-11 1:00

Jun wrote:
2021-01-10 23:15
推荐这个人的一手报道:

https://mobile.twitter.com/TerryBoutonH ... 5449268226

要说川普没有料到这样的形势发展,我是不信的。

Michael Beschloss 在推上提醒大家国防部的领导层刚刚被换成全忠心的班子。Beschloss 可不是信口开河的无名氏,他是颇有名气的主流作家,写过好几本美国总统传记,我看过他在读书节的访谈,还嫌他太正统呢。
新代理国防部长上任时候,技术官僚参谋长陪他视察,发表讲话,说我们效忠的是宪法不是某个国王,给了他一个下马威。

川普一天都不能继续呆在这个位置上了,太危险了。我不赞成宽恕和团结为名和稀泥,必须一查到底一个也不放过,首先把川普挪开。

选举后有闺蜜说人民群众的反映跟粉碎四人帮似的。我说是啊拜登是华国锋。还是需要叶剑英和邓小平。
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2021-01-11 1:45

没完呢。华盛顿州,佛州,亚利桑那州,Kansas,明尼苏达州政府都出现了比较暴力的示威冲击。

@2:53 They were chanting,"Hang Mike Pence!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhjRXO72v1s

From former assistant director of the fbi Frank Figliuzzi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFQsYIRHgzM
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Post by Knowing » 2021-01-11 2:42

Jun wrote:
2021-01-10 23:15
推荐这个人的一手报道:

https://mobile.twitter.com/TerryBoutonH ... 5449268226

要说川普没有料到这样的形势发展,我是不信的。

Michael Beschloss 在推上提醒大家国防部的领导层刚刚被换成全忠心的班子。Beschloss 可不是信口开河的无名氏,他是颇有名气的主流作家,写过好几本美国总统传记,我看过他在读书节的访谈,还嫌他太正统呢。
共和党里那么多factor 能联合起来比较可怕。
我现在还不是特别担心川普动用核武器。因为他这个人很透明,想什么肯定会说出口,想打伊朗什么的都有小道消息传出来。至少到现在,没听到任何内线说他打算往某国扔一个核弹。他满心打算的都是特赦家人和自己,国际挑衅也会在特赦之后,怕扔核弹会导致国会和pence 更大的反弹。而他迟迟不特赦身边现在还在用的亲信(朱市长,kushner) 我怀疑是为了控制他们,确保忠心。那就不能太早。而且现在开始一场国际战争好宣布军管什么的,也太迟了一点,除了讨好普京爸爸,对他自己无用。但是现在普京爸爸对他也没什么用了。
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Post by Knowing » 2021-01-11 7:08

Parler 彻底断线了。开心!
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Post by tiffany » 2021-01-11 7:56

这个就是一个 app 吧?网上放个安装包也能自己装手机的吧?
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Post by Jun » 2021-01-11 9:07

贴一个跟川普无关的新闻:

Andrew Yang 正在竞选纽约市长,以证明自己有实际的政治管理能力。

敬请期待。
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Post by Knowing » 2021-01-11 9:55

tiffany wrote:
2021-01-11 7:56
这个就是一个 app 吧?网上放个安装包也能自己装手机的吧?
后台服务器没了,光有前端没用的。啥也别说了,原来最狠的还是亚马逊。

纽约州律师协会在考虑disbar 朱市长, 因为他宣扬暴力。
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Post by Jun » 2021-01-11 10:40

Knowing wrote:
2021-01-11 9:55
纽约州律师协会在考虑disbar 朱市长, 因为他宣扬暴力。
What about all the lying and illegal activities with Russian and Ukrainian spies?
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Post by 豪情 » 2021-01-11 11:28

Knowing wrote:
2021-01-11 9:55
tiffany wrote:
2021-01-11 7:56
这个就是一个 app 吧?网上放个安装包也能自己装手机的吧?
后台服务器没了,光有前端没用的。啥也别说了,原来最狠的还是亚马逊。

纽约州律师协会在考虑disbar 朱市长, 因为他宣扬暴力。
前端网络服务器也在云上。光有client没用。阿里云欢迎你。
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Post by Jun » 2021-01-11 20:30

据说大公主要叛变了,计划参加拜登的就职典礼,还想挽救自己的政治前途。

Department of Homeland Security 的代理部长 Chad Wolf 刚从中东回来就辞职了 ...

今天下午外交部的网站上写着川普总统任期终止于2021年1月11日7点40分。

(这两天忍不住狂刷推,can't look away from the train wreck.)
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2021-01-11 23:15

Twilio 终止了对Parler 的服务。这个比较厉害了。Twilio 提供用户验证注册服务。没有这个服务,谁都可以上去注册,据说很多人注册成管理员。Parler 的用户数据被几乎完整下载。据说Parler 注册要提供驾照正反面复印件... 这,不是不是不报,时辰未到。此生谁知道时辰什么时候到...
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Post by 豪情 » 2021-01-12 0:25

哇。云服务时代。得云者得天下。
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Post by Knowing » 2021-01-12 0:56

大公主叛变对川普打击太大了!孽障,难道她和驸马不想要特赦免死金牌了?幸好还没发出去!
哦,说个笑话,川普据说非常喜欢特赦权力,最近经常跟身边助手职员说:你们要特赦吗?要就跟我说。职员们很反感:好像你这么有把握我们都犯了罪似的。
我终于扛不住诱惑装了推特。为了看各种果汁小道。抵抗了那么多年终于抵不住了....
密歇根议会麻利的通过法案,禁止在议会大楼里携带武器。哈,生命受了威胁怂了吧。
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Post by Jun » 2021-01-12 8:34

之前跟川普有生意来往的银行,包括 Signature 和 Deutsch 银行,据说跟川普割席了。

当然,正常银行早几十年就不跟川普做生意了。
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Post by Knowing » 2021-01-12 8:55

给川普打击最大的据说是PGA 割席, 宣布弃用新泽西和苏格兰的川普高尔夫球场。
哎,他马上就要下台,不能用总统权力打击报复,企业们就墙倒众人推了。惨。主要是他的粉丝消费能力看上去也不太强的样子。。。
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Post by Jun » 2021-01-12 9:03

Sheldon Adelson is dead!!! :super:

When is Rupert Murdoch's turn?

Charles Koch?
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Post by Knowing » 2021-01-12 10:15

I do not he did not leave all his money to RNC...
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Post by dropby » 2021-01-12 11:20

Jun wrote:
2021-01-12 9:03
Sheldon Adelson is dead!!! :super:

When is Rupert Murdoch's turn?

Charles Koch?
Fox call Arizona的时候Rupert Murdoch就已经算是割席了吧?

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Post by Jun » 2021-01-12 12:46

dropby wrote:
2021-01-12 11:20
Jun wrote:
2021-01-12 9:03
Sheldon Adelson is dead!!! :super:

When is Rupert Murdoch's turn?

Charles Koch?
Fox call Arizona的时候Rupert Murdoch就已经算是割席了吧?
We do not care. 你别以为 Fox News 忽然变好了,他们还在一直传播谎言没停过呢。Murdoch 的破坏活动远远早于川普,也不会因为川普的下台而停止。

网上现在一堆人在讲 Twitter, Facebook, Amazon 等等如何打压“言论自由”,我就不明白这些人是真不懂呢还是在装傻。好像“言论自由”是绝对真理绝对原则似的,绝对不能碰,绝对自由,其它一切权益都被言论自由压倒。

仔细看看,世界上喊“自由”喊得最响的那些人都是一贯站在权力顶尖的人,他们的自由就是压迫控制下面的人的自由,至于下面的人有没有自由,有多少自由,跟他们一点关系也没有。这方面最近的例子就是不戴口罩的自由。你倒是自由了,其它人活该被感染么?He does not give a shit and will never bother to protect anyone else's freedom except his own. 自由=为所欲为 罢了。

只揪着一条“言论自由”不放,闭口不言权力的分配和高低,这就是耍流氓。
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Post by 豪情 » 2021-01-12 15:02

Jun wrote:
2021-01-12 8:34
之前跟川普有生意来往的银行,包括 Signature 和 Deutsch 银行,据说跟川普割席了。

当然,正常银行早几十年就不跟川普做生意了。
德银半年前开会,决定还是等川普下台才foreclose他资不抵债的抵押地产。后来开除了负责川普业务的最高负责人。等到现在也是神龟忍者
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Post by dropby » 2021-01-12 15:03

割席当然不是变好了。割席是预见继续绑一起会弊大于利了吧,所以Murdoch比Hawley聪明多了。不管怎么说,Fox news不继续大力站川普客观上总比继续大力站川普好。

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Post by 豪情 » 2021-01-12 15:28

总参出来表态了,希望压死国防部。
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Post by Knowing » 2021-01-12 16:01

holy s__t!

Mitch McConnell believes Trump committed impeachable offense, is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him, believing that it will make it easier to purge him from the party,
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/12 ... mpeachment
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Post by Elysees » 2021-01-12 16:39

哇,虽然只有最后几天,看来也不是不可能impeach啊。我在推上看人说,如果确实impeach了,终身的pension啊,security service之类的也就都没了,省一大笔钱呢,也。
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Post by dropby » 2021-01-12 17:14

不得不说老乌龟真是狡猾啊。反川的共和党这下子马上归队共和党了。反正共和党在川普手里已经拿到了那么多好处,及时切割了才打得赢民主党。

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Post by Jun » 2021-01-12 17:24

Liz Cheney 也出来支持 impeachment 了。

注意她的 Twitter Page:
Official Page of Congressman Liz Cheney, proudly representing the people of Wyoming. Chair of the House Republican Conference
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2021-01-12 17:47

1? 这招好,这是在召唤无主的川粉。
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Post by dropby » 2021-01-12 18:09

川普可千万别辞职啊。我就想看他被弹劾下台。

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Post by Jun » 2021-01-12 19:03

笑嘻嘻 wrote:
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1? 这招好,这是在召唤无主的川粉。
世界上哪有无主的川粉呢?川普是他们永远的北斗星啊。
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Post by dropby » 2021-01-12 20:39

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/1 ... ill-458436

川普下台了,那三个保守大法官还在呢。这么快就开始限制堕胎权了。

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Post by Elysees » 2021-01-12 23:07

话说四年前,川普竞选的时候,我有大学同学在微信群里给他拉票,说的就是,虽然他不是个好人,但他是共和党的代表,作为共和党支持者(我很肯定的知道她绝对不反对堕胎但确实反对lgbt平权啥的),就应该支持他,美国是三权分立的国家,总统的权力并不是无限的,他在监管下不会做出什么不理智的事儿来的云云。这个说法四年前绝对不少见,去年11月不知道还有多少持有这种想法的人,还是说去年给他投票的人已经连这种遮羞句子都不屑再说了。总之偶尔我还会想,他们现在的是不是改变了最初的观点......
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2021-01-13 2:49

川普威胁敢继续 impeach 他,就是在召唤更大的暴力,所有投票同意的都小心点儿自己的小命儿。
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Post by Knowing » 2021-01-13 6:32

现在共和党们都不在为川普辩护了,只说“impeachment will be divisive". 白宫职员郁闷的说,自从没了推,共和党议员们就没那么害怕川普了,因为他等于被阉了。。。。 :mrgreen:
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Post by Jun » 2021-01-13 10:31

笑嘻嘻 wrote:
2021-01-10 20:26
看到林三土的这篇:
一月六日美国国会之乱,远比最初所见凶险得多
关于阴谋论呢,这两天又出现新线索。波士顿环球报采访麻省众议员 Ayanna Pressley,她的 chief of staff Sarah Groh 说他们躲在办公室里堵门的时候,发现办公室里的 panic buttons 都被破坏掉了。显然是在攻击国会之前就有人干了。

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/13/ ... elegation/

NJ 的众议员 Mikie Sherrill 说1月5日她看见有共和党众议员带领外面的人在国会里 tour,认为是事先摸底的做法,也暗示有些众议员是内线:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... ol-attack/
Several Capitol Police officers have also been suspended and more than a dozen others are being investigated for suspected ties to rioters or for showing inappropriate support for last week’s attempted insurrection.
攻击国会里至少有一部分人是有组织有计划有明确目的的,不是一时冲动,有人拍了视频:
https://twitter.com/AynRandPaulRyan/sta ... 6804025345
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Post by 豪情 » 2021-01-13 11:13

有的议员担心共和党议员会带武器进去所以今天议员都要过检测器。
A way to make the impeachment process less divisive is for Republicans to join it.
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Post by dropby » 2021-01-13 11:39

共和党真恶心。川普分裂国家那么久他们不批评川普分裂国家,现在要川普为自己干的坏事买单他们跑出来说不要分裂国家了。我昨天看了一篇文章说得很有道理,当初南北战争之后没有把种族歧视这个问题彻底解决,美国的种族歧视在以后的一百年成为一个巨大的社会问题。现在不彻底清算川普和川普主义,国家才会继续分裂。

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Post by Knowing » 2021-01-13 12:32

还有七天,捏着拳头说
Nevertheless, she persisted.

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Post by vivi » 2021-01-13 13:16

又没头脑又不高兴

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Post by 豪情 » 2021-01-13 13:25

其实川普也就是学习老毛号召全国造当权派的反。
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Post by vivi » 2021-01-13 14:07

White Trash 那本书里写当权者都知道这些又穷又没受过教育的白人是用来打压少数族裔的最佳武器。
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Post by Elysees » 2021-01-14 2:20

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/us/p ... ticleShare

下面还有什么流程才算正式弹劾?
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Post by Knowing » 2021-01-14 2:43

下一步是nancy pelosi 把article of impeachment 交给参议院举行 trial。
Mitch 已经决定20号就职典礼之前不会举行trial. 20号之后是民主党控制参议院了。convict 需要2/3多数,67票, 需要共和党参议员。所以Mitch 控制着川普是否被convict 的决定,打算以此为leverage 让川普别继续鼓动支持者闹事。
另外据说pelosi 可能不打算太早把程序交给参议员,让参议院集中精力为biden 的议程服务。让这把剑在川普头上多悬几天。
被convict 的意义是巨大的。直接后果之一是从此不能担任公职,2024 的共和党初选局面就清晰很多,可以想像mitch 希望这样。

最新消息是airbnb把就职仪式期间DC附近的订单全都取消了。 :mrgreen: cancel culture 太嚣张!
有人在推特上很逗的说:
Donald Trump today became the first president in American history not to be able to tweet in response to his second impeachment.
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Post by Jun » 2021-01-14 7:36

Knowing wrote:
2021-01-14 2:43
最新消息是airbnb把就职仪式期间DC附近的订单全都取消了。 :mrgreen: cancel culture 太嚣张!
这是DC市长的要求。AirBnB 果然照办了。

这下子跑来闹事的红脖们都要住到 suburban hotels 了吗?我疑神疑鬼地看了一眼街对面的 Hilton Garden Inn. :f28:
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Post by Knowing » 2021-01-14 7:38

囤点吃的喝的躲家里,有可能的话,用钢板把窗户都从里面拦上,没钢板就尽量别从窗口前过。防流弹。
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Post by Jun » 2021-01-14 8:16

Knowing wrote:
2021-01-14 7:38
囤点吃的喝的躲家里,有可能的话,用钢板把窗户都从里面拦上,没钢板就尽量别从窗口前过。防流弹。
乌鸦嘴 :let_me_die:
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Post by Knowing » 2021-01-14 11:47

公主驸马厕所的故事:
公主驸马不让secret service 用他们家的厕所。保镖们想尽办法,先是租了个零时厕所放街边,邻居们大怒。后来去附近奥巴马家蹭同事的厕所用--奥巴马家也有保镖,把他们家不用的车库改了个command centre. 后来有次公主的保镖把厕所弄的很脏,奥巴马的保镖怒了不让他们来用。于是他们去彭斯家的同事那儿蹭厕所,但是挺远的,开车一英里,有时来不及只能去边上的餐馆借用。最后在邻居家月租三千租了个地下室上厕所。
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... d-kushner/
Nevertheless, she persisted.

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