[zz]Money Won’t Buy You Health Insurance

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[zz]Money Won’t Buy You Health Insurance

Post by Jun » 2011-02-23 8:42

Money Won’t Buy You Health Insurance

By DONNA DUBINSKY
February 19, 2011

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/opini ... insky.html
THIS isn’t the story of a poor family with a mother who has a dreadful disease that bankrupts them, or with a child who has to go without vital medicines. Unlike many others, my family can afford medical care, with or without insurance.

Instead, this is a story about how broken the market for health insurance is, even for those who are healthy and who are willing and able to pay for it.
The new health care reform legislation is not perfect. Nothing that complex could be. But I have no doubt that the system is broken and reform is absolutely essential. If we are not going to have universal coverage but are going to rely on employer plans, then we must offer individuals, self-employed people and small businesses a place to purchase insurance at a reasonable price.

If members of Congress feel so strongly about undoing this important legislation, perhaps we should stop providing them with health insurance. Let’s credit their pay for the amount that has been paid by the taxpayers, and let them try to buy health insurance in the individual market. My bet is that they all would be denied. Health insurance reform might suddenly not seem to them like such a bad idea.

说实在的,我真心希望所有投票给共和党与茶包党的每个人都被扔到free market上自己去买保险。请不要跟我说民主党也如何如何,支持&投票共和党的民众,至少没有权利要求政府(即其他纳税人)给自己的孩子发放低利率的高等教育学生贷款,也没有权利失业了坐等政府发给自己失业救济金,更没有权利期待生病了还有健康保险补贴或者坐在公立医院里等着免费救治。否则就是 hypocrites.
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Re: [zz]Money Won’t Buy You Health Insurance

Post by Knowing » 2011-02-23 11:05

搬到英国来吧。不用变成英国公民,national insurance 按个人收入11%收,跟SS和medicare 税加起来基本一样,收入四万多镑以上是1%,马上可以享受公共医疗保险,将来还有养老金。担心社会主义,公共医疗,排队,配给?没关系,私有医疗补充保险只要50英镑左右一个月。
我也想开了,跟茶包们置什么闲气,咱们是有选择滴!咱们又会说中文又会说英文,能写程序会做算数,带着存款,去那里不行! 美国弄好了回去也不迟。弄不好就算了。 :preston_nocollar: :cat74: :cat74: :cat74: :preston_robot_collar: :cat75: :cat75:
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Post by miumiu » 2011-02-23 16:08

没有什么地方是完美的,小K说的这些都对,但是英国个人收入税高,物价也高,而平均收入反而比美国低,整个一全民大锅饭。国家养老金也在面临改革,估计等到我接近退休阶段的时候退休年龄都提高到70岁了。 :mrgreen:

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Re: [zz]Money Won’t Buy You Health Insurance

Post by Knowing » 2011-02-23 17:08

英国税不比美国高多少,还可能低,一般人是百分之二十到四十的税率。美国联邦税三十多百分点,州税百分之五到百分之九多都有,有的地方还有城市税。物价上伦敦不比纽约贵,别的我不怎么买没资格发言,常买的只有农产品,质量高多了。
政府退休金是靠不住的,自己往退休账户里存点钱吧。 :mrgreen: 英国并不是完美的,但是政治和社会保障方面比美国强多了,就像美国的政治和社会安全网比中国强,而中国比北朝鲜又强一些。同事还老说英国在欧洲算差的:产假短,社会福利不好。对于个人那个好一些,得看具体情况。不过jun这么liberal,当然是在整体更liberal的社会生活觉得痛快些。
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Post by Jun » 2011-02-23 17:38

咱们又会说中文又会说英文,能写程序会做算数,带着存款,去那里不行!
我不会写程序哎... :gros_yeux_tristes:
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Re: [zz]Money Won’t Buy You Health Insurance

Post by dropby » 2011-02-23 17:52

我不早建议jun移民加拿大来着? :mrgreen:

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2011-02-23 17:54

Jun 引的第二段,我真挺希望能见到的。 :mrgreen: 那真感情好!

唉,我觉得现在自由真是越来越少了,不比从前看哪里都是机会,现在都思前想后的。然后觉得没钱就没自由。精神的自由倒是有一些,但生活方式的自由可难啊。
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Re: [zz]Money Won’t Buy You Health Insurance

Post by Jun » 2011-02-23 20:12

最近好像我跟笑嘻嘻有重叠的感慨啊~~ 年轻时一无所有,连顾虑和恐惧都没有,什么都可以试试。积攒了不多不少的经验、资本、履历之后,却忍不住患得患失,背了几个大包袱。有点前不挨村后不着店的感觉。

不管怎么说,英国的电视至少比美国的好看(对于无聊的纳德兼elitist来说),而加拿大(东岸)有好看的花样滑冰比赛。 :party003:
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Re: [zz]Money Won’t Buy You Health Insurance

Post by Knowing » 2011-02-24 5:53

我跟你们反过来,年轻的时候被教育一定要高瞻远瞩,谋定后动,然后计划的事情都没发生,但是过的也还行啊,所以现在觉得完全可以过一天算一天船到桥头自然直。
英国电视质量的确高。听说制作费用一般是美国同类的三分之一左右。我问为什么,答曰"没有钱"。
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